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Jim Thomsen's avatar

I’ve never understood firing the manager “because something had to change,” especially in the absence of evidence that he’s hurting the team. It’s an old-school strategy in a new-school era. It’s like saying “We’re not hiring well on grass; let’s tear it out, replace it with AstroTurf, and see if that sparks anything.”

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Great comparison of past to present to explain current state of the M's.

Unfortunately it may predict M's status-quo future as profitable, interesting, but forever 2nd tier team.

Rowland-Smith, Shannon Dreyer both commented that the timing of Servais' firing is weird.

Before reading this post, I felt the hand of Stanton et al was behind the firing.

Looking at the 2024 attendance drop, now I'm sure Stanton called the shot.

Remember how quick after the 2023 season, M's announced that due to Comcast RSN price hike, the M's had to reduce off-season FA spend?

As usual, '24 FAs were M's typical 2nd tier assemblage of fading vets, platoon hitters and "lotto tickets", like projecting Garver's part-time 100 game avg. to 162 games. No tier 1's like Soto, Chapman etc.

"Bottom line 1st, everything else not 1st. "

"John Stanton, what does the M's payroll budget look like in 2025? Please don't give me the arrogant non-answer you gave Paul Silvi in the '24 pre-season interview when he inquired about low FA spend"

Long Time Commitment to Mediocrity:

The comparative W/L parity between Pinella/Servais is as close as you can get to what I believe is the M's business model: Profit first, looking like you're trying to win 2nd, actually committing resources to win, way behind 1 & 2.

A major "tell" that M's are less than committed to winning is the superstars on the Pinella list:

Griffey Jr., Johnson, ARod, also Ichiro - all bonafide superstars - ALL Wanted Out of Seattle!

They escaped to 1st tier & upcoming teams dedicated to win, backed by budget, not hype.

When today's M's young starters go to NY, TX, Dodgers, Philly etc, they realize these teams pay real money for competitive lineups. They'll probably follow the former M's superstars out of town.

Will 2024 decline in avg. attendance teach John Stanton/ownership W/L "results still matter..." to their bottom line?

I think not, because of comparison of how other teams spend - Rangers w/Seager-Semian, Yanks for FA-to-be Soto, Dodgers, etc.

This article documents an M's 40+ year business model has consistently delivered middle of pack W/L results.

What incentive does Stanton et al have to invest & risk more in an already profitable business?

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