This surprises me. The impression I had was that the Mariners were underwhelmed by what Teo did in 2023, that Teo himself felt Seattle wasn’t the right place for him to thrive, and that very few people hoped Teo would take the QO. I see it tye way you did — glad the M’s gave him a go, and glad to see him go elsewhere (his defense was truly that had). I thought the fanbase was pretty well united in its belief that if the M’s were going to commit to cutting down on strikeouts, sending Teo along was a top priority. Very few people on Twitter, as far as I could tell, wanted to bring him back — Teo being at the top of that list. (During the All-Star break, Teo made some measured but critical comments about his lack of comfort with the batter’s eye at T-Mobile.)
He wouldn't have taken the QO so we'd have gained a draft spot. What did we spend that $20 million on...Garver Mitch Polanco. Straight up bad decisions
And comparing Teoscar to what Jerry replaced him with highlights (again) how poorly Mariners ownership makes decisions. Was Hanigar a better RF? Obviously not. Jerry is 1-9 in making the post season in Seattle. Even George Argyros would not tolerate this abysmal performance.
His comments about his time in Seattle told me that he wasn’t coming back no matter what. His comment about the batter’s eye was especially telling. I think the FO should have given him the QO, which he would have refused, and we get the draft pick. Would LAD have made him an offer, knowing they’d give up the draft choice? Who knows.
What concerns me is how poorly most of the players who have signed here have done. Teo is just the latest, Garver is another, but it has been an annual occurrence. There’s something going on that isn’t obvious to me. Has anyone looked at how those players have performed in our ballpark when they play as visiting team members?
While it's true Teoscar didn't produce in Seattle like he did in LLay the following year, Teoscar produced better than any free agent since Broomstick, which tell us how poor our free agents produced. All this bargain hunting by management, whatever the constraints, has led to disaster after disaster. What did we get for Teo's money? Jorge Polanco and Mitch Garver. Our management acts as if they haven't a thing left in their pockets and wait for the bargain bin of players after the New Year before they sign anyone.
The mariners are in the 15th largest metropolitan area with over four million people. The Mariners have additional fans in Alaska, Oregon, Idaho and Montana, so in truth they probably rank about 12th in potential attendance, yet last year the Mariner's payroll ranked 18th. The Padres are the 18th largest metropolitan area in the U.S., and yet their payroll iin 2023 was estimated by Fangraphics at $245 million. The Padres are how many times more exciting, and when a player doesn't work out, they don't hesitate to trade them. The Padres also suffer from the marine layer and rough winds, but I don't see them using it as an excuse for their clubs poor hitting. As much as I appreciate the Mariner's ability to develop excellent players, management is unwilling to make the sort of commitment that guarantees success. Fifty four percent hasn't cut it so far and the window for their great staff diminishes every year. I'm a tried and true fan, but until management commits to a winning team, I'm content to follow opinions like yours. I will not attend a game.
Luke, if you really want to stir the pot, do an article on the last decade of Mariners payroll adjusted for inflation to now. I looked it up and it is INFURIATING. Particularly in light of the step back quotes around having the resources there when the team was ready.
This surprises me. The impression I had was that the Mariners were underwhelmed by what Teo did in 2023, that Teo himself felt Seattle wasn’t the right place for him to thrive, and that very few people hoped Teo would take the QO. I see it tye way you did — glad the M’s gave him a go, and glad to see him go elsewhere (his defense was truly that had). I thought the fanbase was pretty well united in its belief that if the M’s were going to commit to cutting down on strikeouts, sending Teo along was a top priority. Very few people on Twitter, as far as I could tell, wanted to bring him back — Teo being at the top of that list. (During the All-Star break, Teo made some measured but critical comments about his lack of comfort with the batter’s eye at T-Mobile.)
He wouldn't have taken the QO so we'd have gained a draft spot. What did we spend that $20 million on...Garver Mitch Polanco. Straight up bad decisions
And comparing Teoscar to what Jerry replaced him with highlights (again) how poorly Mariners ownership makes decisions. Was Hanigar a better RF? Obviously not. Jerry is 1-9 in making the post season in Seattle. Even George Argyros would not tolerate this abysmal performance.
His comments about his time in Seattle told me that he wasn’t coming back no matter what. His comment about the batter’s eye was especially telling. I think the FO should have given him the QO, which he would have refused, and we get the draft pick. Would LAD have made him an offer, knowing they’d give up the draft choice? Who knows.
What concerns me is how poorly most of the players who have signed here have done. Teo is just the latest, Garver is another, but it has been an annual occurrence. There’s something going on that isn’t obvious to me. Has anyone looked at how those players have performed in our ballpark when they play as visiting team members?
While it's true Teoscar didn't produce in Seattle like he did in LLay the following year, Teoscar produced better than any free agent since Broomstick, which tell us how poor our free agents produced. All this bargain hunting by management, whatever the constraints, has led to disaster after disaster. What did we get for Teo's money? Jorge Polanco and Mitch Garver. Our management acts as if they haven't a thing left in their pockets and wait for the bargain bin of players after the New Year before they sign anyone.
The mariners are in the 15th largest metropolitan area with over four million people. The Mariners have additional fans in Alaska, Oregon, Idaho and Montana, so in truth they probably rank about 12th in potential attendance, yet last year the Mariner's payroll ranked 18th. The Padres are the 18th largest metropolitan area in the U.S., and yet their payroll iin 2023 was estimated by Fangraphics at $245 million. The Padres are how many times more exciting, and when a player doesn't work out, they don't hesitate to trade them. The Padres also suffer from the marine layer and rough winds, but I don't see them using it as an excuse for their clubs poor hitting. As much as I appreciate the Mariner's ability to develop excellent players, management is unwilling to make the sort of commitment that guarantees success. Fifty four percent hasn't cut it so far and the window for their great staff diminishes every year. I'm a tried and true fan, but until management commits to a winning team, I'm content to follow opinions like yours. I will not attend a game.
Luke, if you really want to stir the pot, do an article on the last decade of Mariners payroll adjusted for inflation to now. I looked it up and it is INFURIATING. Particularly in light of the step back quotes around having the resources there when the team was ready.
No thanks.